Healing Emotional Trauma
JJ Flizanes is an Empowerment Strategist teaching the benefits of healing emotional trauma and the Host of The Fit 2 Love Podcast Show. She is the Director of Invisible Fitness, an Amazon best-selling author of Fit 2 Love: How to Get Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually Fit to Attract the Love of Your Life, and author of
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JJ vividly reminds us that the word ‘fitness’ is not just about the state of one’s physical body, but also the factors which determine a person’s overall well being.
And, for JJ, the key components in all these areas are ‘invisible’ — balanced support structures of nutrition, emotional centeredness and health.
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According to the website psych central emotional intelligence is the ability to identify, use, understand and manage emotions in an effective and positive way. A high EQ helps individuals to communicate better reduce their anxiety, defuse conflict, improve relationships, empathize with others, and effectively overcome life’s challenges.
Our emotional intelligence affects the quality of our lives because it influences our behavior and relationships. EQ is synonymous with self awareness because it enables us to live our lives with intention, purpose and autonomy. Many of us move through life making important decisions based on our current circumstances. We may perceive them as being beyond their ability to change thus limiting our options and solutions.
Taking time to reflect and examining why we decide to do what we do enables us to lead to lead lives, determined by our conscious intentions rather than circumstances alone. Developing aq can greatly influence our success. Our personal situations and intelligence are factors as well. However, EQ can profoundly affect our choices by creating options we may not have otherwise imagined or considered to be possibilities. And now it’s on with the show.
G’day everybody and welcome to another episode of the transatlantic podcast today I have awesome guests full of energy and vitality. With me I have JJ Flizanes. She is an empowerment strategist and the host of the fit to love podcast show. She is the director of invisible fitness and an Amazon best selling author of Book fit to love how to get physically, emotionally and spiritually fit to attract the love of your life and the author of Nack Absolute ABS retains for a fit and firm core she was named Best Personal Trainer in Los Angeles for 2007.
By elite traveler magazine. JJ vividly reminds us that the world that the word fitness is not just about the state on one’s physical body, but also the factors which determine a person’s overall well being. And that’s why I wanted to talk to JJ and for JJ the key components in all these areas are invisible are invisible balance, support structures of nutrition, emotional centeredness and help a favorite of journalists and the media for her depth of knowledge and a vibrant personality.
JJ, a contributing expert for get active magazine has also been featured in many national magazines in the US not in Australia. Including shape fitness, Muscle and Fitness. Hers elegant bride and woman’s health as well as appeared on nbc cbs Fox 11 KTLA Hello, JJ.
Hi, Bill. Well not yet for Australia we can change that though. I’m hoping that Australia call me.
I’m loving it. I’m loving it. We do have those magazines here as well fitness and muscle and the common so we understand where they are and where you sort of fit into the whole fitness world. I’m curious where you always a fitness freak?
No, no, I’ve been dancing since I was three. So I definitely have been active and I’ve used my body. But I would say I did not get into the gym until I was in college. It was probably sophomore year I although I did graduate in three years. So I was only there for three years. So whatever that middle year now would be called weather.
That’d be my sophomore, my junior. And it was because I didn’t want to work retail anymore. And a friend in retail said, Let’s go get a job at the gym. Now mind you, my boyfriend at the time was a gymnast. So he was really well defined and built very balanced musculature all over his body. And I was in musical theater school and I was dancing had been dancing my whole life. So I had strong muscular quads and calves, but a scrawny skinny little upper body, like I looked like a pair.
And, I knew not that I cared that much about building muscle, so to speak, it was really about looking more balanced and feeling stronger. I mean, obviously, it wasn’t doing anything with my upper body. But I was yet doing all this with my legs tapping and ballet and jazz and all that good stuff. So that’s really when it started. I was probably a 19 maybe 19 or 20. Although it was like I took off running very quickly once I got in there and got certified and then became director of education for New York sports club when I was 21. So like it wasn’t, I didn’t waste any time getting into the fitness industry.
So you look very youthful actually. How long have you actually now been in the industry?
20 years? About 20 years. I’ve been in California for 17 in June, and I’ve been and I started Personal Training, maybe two years, two and a half years before I got here in New York. Right. 97 I got my first certification, I believe in 1996. So it’s been a little over 20 years, or almost 20 years.
Yeah, somebody that’s been in industry for such a long time would have a lot of broad knowledge plus a lot of really, you know, narrow and focused points of view about how to go about doing things, how different is what you’re doing today. 20 ideas later, as opposed to what you were doing, when you were 19 when it was let’s do everything and let’s do as much as we can. Have you found yourself evolving and changing The way that you go about fitness?
It’s a great question. And I’d love to ask that I’ve actually a lot of male Fitness Trainers for the reason that like a sport, I could see how you would think the fitness industry is like a sport like you go into it in one way kind of full on and you take what you know. But to me, first of all, I’m not that person. I’m the person who is very inquisitive and inquires and wants to learn what I’m doing. In fact, I credit a lot of my passion to one of the trainers that I used to work with back in I mean, 1996 when I first got certified, you can get certified as a personal trainer.
Without any science background, you can literally take a weekend course, sometimes online, never stepped foot in a gym and become a certified personal trainer. Now, I didn’t do that I went I did a course. But the course that I took, taught me more about how not to get sued and more like the legal structures of business.
And it was like a it was like a health class like a little bit about a lot of things. Alright, so now I’m certified. I will Walk into a gym and I see all this equipment. Now what? You didn’t teach me how to use the equipment. So I then started to ask questions. And I was trained by the manager on staff at the time 20 years ago, and I only remember what her background was if it was physical therapy or, but she taught me what the machines did.
Maybe I don’t even again, that’s really funny. I have no idea what she taught me in terms of like, was it I can’t I can’t tell now 20 years later, like, was it any good? I have no idea, no frame of reference. So I remember that she did teach me but then I put some clients on. And I remember thinking, so here’s the biggest change when you first start out and you really don’t have a lot of education. And the industry is that way.
You don’t have to have a degree to become a personal trainer. And some people that have degrees even in something similar from where I sit right now, don’t know, a lot of the things that I think they should know. So it’s in terms of the sciences that are involved. It depends on who’s teaching the course. So I put a bunch of ladies on like a leg sled. I remember And one of the physical therapist client trainers. Trey’s a trainer, and he is he was studying to be a physical therapist. He approached me and he’s like JJ, and he was really discreet about it.
He’s like, come here. And he took me into the, into the office and he was like, Why did you put those ladies are that lady on that machine? Do you did you ask does she have any hip issues? And he started to ask me questions. And I was it was almost like, Oh my God, I’ve been found out someone found me out and I don’t know what I’m doing in every area. Oh my god, what’s gonna happen next?
And he he put me on a machine he said, let me ask you what’s what muscles are being worked here and what’s what actions are happening? And honestly, I did a guess and my guessed right? But I knew I guessed. So I was like, Okay, tell me what what you know, help me How do I get more information and that’s when he turned me on to my very first certification, which was a national well, second certification. I was certified at that point.
That one was bogus, but the second one which was NASM. National Academy of Sports Medicine at that time run by different people than it is now that time, I mean, people who were in physical therapy school weren’t passing the beginner course. So that’s the course that I went through. And it blew me open in terms of my mind in terms of science because growing up, I never thought I really understood science.
Because I wasn’t I was, I’m the theater student. I’m the I’m the communicator. I’m the, the English person I was taking poetry and creative writing courses. And I dropped all my science and math in my senior year of high school because it bored me and I didn’t like it because it was abstract.
And it didn’t mean anything to me. But here now I’m working with a body and I’m seeing science in my body. And it’s so clear, and it’s so easy, and I’m good at it. And now all of a sudden, I’m smart. And I was like wow, like my world just opened up. And so that little bit of science information really uncovered for me how much gym science guy gym science, that there is and how many trainers had no clue about the science of the body and how most people that are working out have no clue about what they’re doing in the gym.
Once I started to really start to learn it opened my eyes so much that the how I’m different now is back then it was it was a toe to toe ego thing. It was I wanted to show you how smart I was by what I knew, because I knew you didn’t know it like the big guys with their weight belts. Like I wanted to just go right and go raw, like, just meet meet them testosterone wise right in their face and be like you’re an idiot.
You don’t know what you’re doing. Okay? Like, seriously. So now of course, that’s not the right approach. And that was my own insecurities driving that right? Like I learned one thing, and and I could prove that they were wrong. And I wanted to like capitalize on that. So I don’t do that anymore. I’m much calmer about how I deliver my science that I don’t need to make anybody wrong for it, but but through the years, I just keep learning more and more and so back to the question of like, how am I different too.
When I first started learning, one of my instructors in NSM, was an ex Mr. Olympian. And he got up in the front of the room now at the time I was in my early 20s. And he said, I have 11 injuries, don’t do what I did. And I was like, okay, that’s all I needed to hear. I’m like, I won’t. Okay, you’re telling me don’t do stupid shit in the gym? Don’t, so I won’t. And that was all I needed to hear. And I took it very seriously because I saw that you can train and get injured or you can train and preserve your body. And the difference was science. You have to understand the sciences involved.
And not many people do. Because, because if you have a good body, it’s just you genetically look good. Or you’re an athlete, you can get away with a lot of stuff. Nobody questions you. Yeah, and the average client doesn’t know any better. So what are they going to do? They don’t know the questions to ask you.
They just know you look good. They want to look like you. Here’s my money. Work me out. And they don’t think about how their joints are deteriorating or how they’re wrecking their body over time. So I just continued, my education has not stopped. And it just continues. It’s just different subjects.
So I went from when I my brain was turned on. It went from biomechanics and anatomy to physiology, which took many years to really understand because nobody, I mean, thank God for some of the computer programs that could make things different colors, because once you start cutting into a muscle and breaking down the cell, it’s all like, if you can’t draw it, well, it all looks the same.
I’m like, I can’t conceptualize this. I need color. So thank God for the atom program that made physiology easy to understand. Plus, it’s all electrical and chemical things that happen in the body, like there’s like so many transitions that happen from the first action potential which is electrical in your brain, and then the chemical and electrical reactions that happen till you get to muscle contraction, like there’s a lot of stuff happening in the body that needs to be in place.
And that’s the physiology Part and so we went to physiology and then physics like hello you have to understand physics. I yeah, I won’t digress but there’s some funny stories about that. Okay, so physics how many people doing things that just says it like you’re like okay gravity pulls down.
They don’t understand physics. Okay then we move to biochemistry so after got sort of the anatomy physiology physics part then you move to in physiology and you move to biochemistry, the food how’s the food affect your body.
And then once you get to the biochemistry then especially for where I am right now dealing with people it mostly in their 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s we’re looking at the the hormonal and the metabolic degeneration of their body and what’s going on with them hormonally and neuro neuro chemistry, right, your neurotransmitters.
So we’re looking at brain chemistry as well as as your hormones and so all of these different things play a big role. And then I haven’t even begun to talk about the psychology piece. There is a psychology piece, right? So all these different things are important when you consider your exercise your lifestyle, your health, and and they’re all integrated.
And unfortunately in life because it’s easier for us to understand we compartmentalize. And we think well, I’ll just do this, but you don’t ever look at how it’s so attached to this, this, this, this and this, and how do they all affect each other? I’m about the integration of all of it and and seeing where it where’s the whole? What are you missing? That’s getting you stuck that you need to focus on? It’s gonna help the rest of this flow better.
Yeah, I, you’re talking my language. I love it. And I can relate. Yeah, I can relate. Because when I was going to the gym when I was 17 1819, there was no thought about anything else. It was just about looking a certain way. And I never actually ever got there because I wasn’t doing all the other little things that I needed to do to help me look that certain way that I think I needed to look. So and I didn’t realize why I wasn’t getting there.
And of course, I wasn’t doing what other people were doing to get to where they were so I wasn’t even asking, Hey, can I you know, for lack of a better example, your bicep is like this. But, you know, what are you doing differently? So I wasn’t trying to learn from people that have been down that path to get some understanding from the wiser, you know, gym junkie, so to speak, that was doing it for more years that was doing it properly.
And I wasn’t prepared to do the work, because it was all too hard, too much commitment. And what do you mean, I’ve got a slate more and what do you mean, I shouldn’t, you know, drink alcohol and all that kind of stuff. Come on. That’s all too hard. So, as I age, though, as I aged, I’m now I’m 42.
I understand that all the things that I’ve picked up over the years about health and wellness, which hasn’t been a lot until around the last four or five years, has shaped this new version of me that’s more supportive of me than I’ve ever been. I have not been this supportive of my body and my brain and my health and my well being as much as I am now.
And it’s because I’ve done those things that are been taught as well, which is, take the brain if there’s something wrong with it, let’s put it over here. Let’s work out what’s wrong with the brain. And let’s try and fix the brain. You broke your foot, well, let’s take your foot, and let’s put it over here.
And let’s work out what went wrong with the foot. And let’s see if we can fix the foot. And they were ever said to me, Well, maybe what’s happening at your foot is connected to something that’s happening that you’re putting in your mouth, or not putting in email. So that I asked that because I wanted to allow people that are listening and watching to get a feel for how evolution occurs, evolution in learning and then what it is that you’ve got to offer.
And not only just you and me at age 40 odd, but what everyone has got to offer at age 40. Odd is far more holistic than they did when they were 20. And that’s because of their experiences. So experience matters. I’ve stuffed up my back going to the gym, doing squats, pull a rotator cuff out and it was gone for two years and I couldn’t do anything with it.
So to get the you know, the the right tricep size, put me out of action for two years, and I couldn’t use my shoulder in anything. I couldn’t use it at work, I couldn’t use it at home, I couldn’t use it at the gym. So it’s really important for people that are listening or watching understand that as we age, and do different things and try different things and learn from different ways we become wiser, more experienced, and just through, you know, trial and error, I think it’s really important. That’s why I wanted to ask because I wanted to know how you’ve evolved. And it sounds like you’ve evolved to that point where now you are somebody that people come to, for more than just I want to go to the gym and put on muscles, what else do they come to you for?
So I actually am working with a client right now that I worked with for three or four years ago. And at the time, she just wanted to lose weight and sort of start to like exercise or get into a program. And then she went off to school and she came back and she hired me Again, and I said what’s different this time and she said, I want the whole thing.
I recognize now that I have emotional eating and that my stress comes to me and I want the whole package. I want the psychological, the emotional, the physical, the whole thing. So now that’s not everybody. I wish it was everybody. Because it’s much more fun that way when I can approach somebody with a holistic toolbox and say, What goodies do we have in here for you that will actually help you? I the client this morning, who he likes to joke he lawyers, me.
He said about his shoulder, my shoulder is bothering me and I said, I go Is it like a new? Did you do something different recently as a probably He’s like, No, just that part of my show that I was telling you that you haven’t fixed yet. And I said because you don’t listen. So yeah, I mean, I I know my limitations with different people that you know, I want another client who has back pain and that back pain, I can tell you frickin 150% it’s emotional. But he’s a typical 60 year old male who doesn’t want to deal with his emotion.
Listen to what JJ just said people back pain which is emotional. Go figure it out guys. It’s possible.
Totally emotional. But I’ve been working with him for six years. And even though he’s not interested in dealing with those emotions or releasing them, or processing them or doing anything that would alleviate them long term doesn’t have back pain right now, but it comes in it goes, but it comes when he gets triggered.
And so he knows like, I’ll say, oh, what happened? And he’ll tell me rather than saying, Oh, I bent over wrong, he’ll say, Oh, it’s probably my brother, or my or my wife or right so he understands. So in six years, I’ve gotten to like, it used to drive me crazy because I you know, I’d look at a problem and I’m like, let’s solve this puppy. Let’s not wait. Why would if you like if you knew what the problem was and how to solve it, why would you just do it?
But some, but I understand why because you can’t teach an old dog new tricks, all that good stuff, habit. And to be quite honest, when it comes to those kinds of big emotions that people have stuffed down for so long. The reality evidence to really deal with it, it means your life has to change and unless you’re ready to change and by the way, like with you and what happened to you and what’s happened to people who get cancer, people that have car x, like, like, if you are unwilling to take the hint along the way that life wants you to grow and move, then you will manifest some big reason that’s gonna say, You’re not listening.
So I’m gonna pin you on the ground until you listen. Okay? And she’s you still don’t take the hint. That’s cool. That’s probably maybe your part of your journey, but like, but that you know, you’re gonna get that if you’re stubborn, you’re going to be backed up against the wall until you listen or until you are in a state that so I know you want to get in here. I want to do a quick story about a friend who had back pain and, and had back pain and he had visited me when I moved to California and he had to sleep on like a board because his back hurts so bad.
In fact, he got stranded here for a couple months because he couldn’t sit on a plane went to it. Doctor they did x rays, they said oh, you have a pinched nerve, and it’s an a degenerative disc and we need to do surgery. And somebody had presented him and I don’t have here in front of me. But I’ve got a copy of the book, healing back pain by dr. john Sarno. And he started to read the book and he interpreted as saying that it was all in his head, he was like, screw that I have x rays through the book away. So now we’re getting closer to the surgery.
I think the book came into his life one more time. Now he’s like, literally a day or two away from surgery. And the book came back into his life somehow he read it on a train. And when he got done with it, half of his back pain was gone, never had surgery, and now uses his back pain as his barometer for how well he’s dealing with his emotions.
And, and I had him on my podcast show and I interviewed him years ago, really to help my family and friends who are in denial about their feelings and making their back pain. I thought if they could hear it from somebody else, maybe they listen so whatever. Yeah. So yeah, it’s it now. It’s doesn’t mean you don’t have structural issues, it doesn’t mean you can’t strengthen your muscles, it doesn’t mean many things about your digestion, about your posture about your you know, of course, but if it’s a physical issue, then a physical solution helps. If you if it’s not a physical problem, then all the physical solutions are not going to solve it long term or it’s gonna manifest in another way. So if you’re doing acupuncture, physical therapy, chiropractic that da da da, da, da da and so not better, it’s probably not a physical issue.
Did you research me while you just before you when on
I listened to your show, yeah, I was. Which is why you’re like, I haven’t taken care of myself this good. And last since it left for like, well, let’s see what’s wonder why you end up in the hospital. Because your brain and like, really? Yeah, because like, I mean, I know what you did before that, but I heard your show. So I know that you had like push you up against the wall and say, you better pay attention and you listened.
You’re the best. You’re the best. You know exactly what happened to me. So what happened to me for the people who haven’t caught up on those episodes that are listening and watching what happened? To me it was I had three brain hemorrhages over three years. But the first one happened. At a time when I was working 16 hours a week, I wasn’t eating properly. I was smoking, I was drinking, I wasn’t sleeping enough.
I wasn’t dealing with my emotional challenges. I wasn’t dealing with any I wasn’t doing anything. I was just working. And I was a head case. And I used to describe myself as a head case. And I always used to do this kind of, you know, I hit stuff. And then one day my head goes, stuffing, I’m not coping with this shit anymore.
Here’s a little blade for you to deal with, to get out of your head to get connected to your body. I didn’t think about it that way at the time. Of course not. Because at the time I thought, Oh my God, my brains blade, you know, got to fix it. At the time. We went to the doctors, we did all those things. And then as I started to evolve and emerge, I started to realize that Oh my God, when I addressed that thing in therapy, this thing in my body went away.
I don’t know why it went away. And then I got curious then I started doing etc. And then I did the same thing with food because I realized when I was upset and causing that thing in my body and sugar, oh my god, the sugar and that upset and that feeling and that thought made it worse.
What happens if I take all that out and then I realized that I was in control of my own recovery, I wasn’t in control of getting into my head opening my head up and taking the blood vessel out and cauterizing I wasn’t in control of that the doctors were in control of that thank God for them I wouldn’t be alive if it wasn’t for them.
But I was in control what happens after and whether I end up and I’m going to be a little bit crass or whether I end up in a few years time either did or somebody else being able to toilet me or what my bum for me? And I didn’t want to be that person and I especially didn’t want to be the person who caused me to be in that situation. I would never forgive myself if I put myself in hospital and I was the reason why it happened if God chose it well then so be it.
This wasn’t God’s doing it was my doing so thank you so much for saying what you say cuz I can relate to it. And part of why I do my podcast is the same reason you do it so that hopefully one day, one of my family members goes, I wonder what Bill talks about on that podcast?
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, good luck with that. I had a little bit of success with that. But the reality of it is the best way to help others is to just be an example of it.
Yeah, I know. So that’s what I’m doing. And people are contacting me from all over the place saying that I love the episodes, they can relate to that. And that’s what, that’s why I love doing this is because I want to make a difference. I want to change but I don’t want to force change, or want to allow change to occur. And it sounds like you do the same thing. So if somebody comes back to you after six years, you might not have contacted them for X amount of years.
But the work that you did with them earlier, allows them to take their path, get to a point and then if there was a value in what you offered, which they obviously was, then what that allows him to do is say you know what, I’m ready for the next step and it’s okay that it took six You should, it should be quicker. And that would be better. But it’s okay that it took six years. And now, you know, JJ helped me with the next thing.
And what I love about podcasts is that we get to share a piece of ourselves, we get to use it as a healing mechanism for ourselves, because that’s why I use it. And we get to, you know, relate to other people, not just to ourselves anymore. Now I’m relating to everybody else. I’m making a difference. I’m helping people, and some of your episodes had really interesting headlines. And the best therapy for true healing is one of the episodes. Tell me about what is the best therapy for true healing, because that is an amazing thing.
So the type of therapy is called EMDR eye movement desensitizing Reestablishment. So quickly, I’m gonna just go break down so people, whether you’re watching are listening understand when I talk about true healing. I have worked with therapists both as my clients as well as myself with therapists as well as training them and learning from them. And while I’m a big fan of therapy in general, I am not a fan of talk therapy only with no other tools. The reason is because our mind is divided into two sections conscious and subconscious.
And your conscious mind that which you can hear that you can hear your thoughts that’s only 12% it’s not a lot 88% is subconscious that means the beliefs that you have learned since you were young the things that you’ve that’s happened to you, your your traumas, your experiences, the the interpretations that you’ve had about the things happening in the environment around you have all fed your subconscious mind and most of it was developed from the time you were born until you’re about 10 most of it now, throughout time we have traumas that happened to us and and trauma is is relative.
Someone might say, well, I’ve never been raped. I’ve never been shot. I’ve never been attacked. Those are definitely traumas for sure. But being yelled at can be a trauma. Having best starving and not having food can be a trauma, having a car break down in the middle of nowhere and being scared and hearing sounds and that’s traumatic. So I don’t want anyone to minimize when I talk about trauma, explain EMDR what it does.
Now I have gotten to a point in my own understanding of psychology because like I said, I don’t I study everything, and I am pretty smart. So I think and I do it on myself and I might test a guinea pig, right? I and and I got to the point where and I had done hypnosis, I got to the point where my conscious mind could not undo certain habitual patterns, feelings and beliefs.
And what EMDR was designed to do was designed to help trauma patients, mostly people with PTSD. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and mostly people coming from war or from situations where they were having experiencing those kinds of very very high traumatic events.
So imagine somebody coming back from war and had been shooting or being shot at okay so imagine if in case for anyone that has never heard of gunfire or had a gun fired at you or never fired a gun imagine a gunfire and then coming out of being in war where it’s fight or flight you’re gonna die every second and now you’re trying to integrate back into life and you hear a car backfire the backfire of that car sounds awful lot like a gunfire gunshot and so what’s gonna happen is that the trauma your brain, the nervous system has very it reacts, it’s in yourselves.
It’s it’s not conscious, you do not have any space or time to decide and interpret what that was because you’re already in fight or flight mode because of the traumatic experience but that’s about how it affected your nervous system. EMDR uses eye movement As well as pulses and sounds, there’s a couple different ways to do the therapy. And you do it with somebody else. By the way, you can’t do it by yourself.
But there’s ways to do it that then that eye movement sort of disconnects and creates a space between the nervous system and your body’s reaction. So that now when you hear the backfire after having EMDR for a certain amount of time, there’s a little space there where you get to interpret Oh, that was a car. Okay, body Calm down, and you don’t go into that shock.
Okay, so that’s EMDR is very powerful for some of the things that we can’t wrap our brains around and we are so triggered about and triggers are and while you can work them consciously, there’s a physical cellular component that also needs to be addressed for you to really be able to heal it and not continue repeating it.
Just for the people that listen and don’t know what EMDR is, what are the words mean? What is it? What’s the abbreviation
Eye Movement Desensitizing Reestablishment. So that’s what EMDR stands for. And, and, and it’s part of a whole healing package, I’ve realized that a lot of traditional therapists, even therapists I’ve worked with, don’t necessarily believe in true healing they believe in. They believe in learning and creating different behaviors to set yourself up to not be triggered. And that’s different than healing.
And so I really try to push people in my and I actually just finished writing my third book, like literally a week ago. So when that comes out, I talk about like, the difference between what true healing means which is you are different, in the same situation, you feel differently, react differently, and you should be at peace. If you have healing in that area, and be able to be an observer and not have Trigger, but a lot of therapies are about changing behavior. So you avoid getting triggered, or you change behavior to get a different outcome, but you actually dance around the root cause and the issue you don’t actually ever make peace with or heal the deepest, deepest fear or issue.
Love it. And then I feel that what that encourages only by default, because I went through therapy many, many years ago when I was in my mid 20s, when one of our family members at 31 died from cancer was really traumatic, and I didn’t realize for a number of years, so I went to therapy. What I found myself doing was then unfortunately, being encouraged, but that wasn’t the intention to avoid a situation so a confrontation with somebody that wasn’t full on or nuts, but it was just a no standing my ground kind of confrontation.
I would avoid that and then that didn’t work out for me because I didn’t get what I wanted and I didn’t express that. Myself, I avoided the situation and the feelings of that moment, but I didn’t get an outcome, I didn’t get a result. And it It made me avoid, then to take it to the next step, interacting with that person at all at any level. And then it’s kind of like, well, now I’ve removed myself, I don’t have that problem anymore.
But I don’t interact with anyone anymore. I don’t have any reason to call that person anymore. Because I never want to have the risk that something might be triggered where I have a confrontation and I don’t want to feel those feelings. Oh, God, I can’t not do that. Because that’s not a nasty person. That’s just somebody who has a different point of view that I don’t agree with, that I haven’t learned to deal with yet. So, yeah, I found myself doing that for a little while and then had to overcome all of the avoiding situations because I was avoiding everything.
And then I had to get back into situations. When I got back into him, dealt with the emotion expressed myself did all those things. What I found was that next time exactly what you said in a different situation, sorry, in the same situation, my response was completely different. And that person was responding to me differently and going, that didn’t go as badly as I thought it would go. So we broke the cycle of the, you know, what caused each person to go down the path that they went. And now I was able to interact with people, the center ball was avoiding, in a much, much better way, in a much more calm way, in a loving way, you know, understanding why and we’re able to agree to disagree.
Yeah, well, I think it’s true healing that’s necessary to overcome whatever it is you’re dealing with. And my latest book is about releasing weight and overcoming body shame. And we just want to keep giving lip service to emotional stuff or to understanding but nobody wants to do the work and the work doesn’t have to be doesn’t have to be painful. I mean, yes, there.
You have to, you have to you have to feel it to heal it First of all, but besides that, it doesn’t have to, you know, it’s it’s almost like digging a weed out of a garden. You know, there’s a little bit of effort. Once you Get there and you take it out, then it’s not a problem anymore. Moving on to the next thing, like, people don’t know what the freedom on the other side feels like.
So they keep avoiding it, and then they stuffed down because that’s all they know. Because the the fear of Oh my god, what am I going to feel? How bad is it going to be? I don’t want to feel that let me avoid it. But then it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger for no real good reason. And yeah, so maybe you need to cry or break something.
But guess what, once you get through that, just like the storm, it passes, and all of a sudden, you’re like, Oh, I’m free. And I’m fine. I’m empty. I have emptied my tank. I don’t feel so I don’t feel so full of negative emotion that’s eating away at me. And that freedom is, you know, again, until you experience it. It’s hard to sell it. Yeah, people don’t understand.
Yeah, go for it, go for it, deal with your issues. However, you can release them and have a opportunity to experience what’s on the other side. Because it’s a wave of what’s on this side. And if you’ve been doing that for too long, right, JJ, you get used to that as being a normal. The normal yeah comes Oh my God, this state that I’m in it’s normal. That’s have always been whatever it doesn’t have to be that can be a new normal.
Let’s go for it. Let’s see what that new normal is designed to let things go and experience it. I I’ve certainly benefited from it and in healing from brain hemorrhages and strike, a lot of the work that you’re describing is really important for healing and recovering from brain hemorrhages, strokes, and any illness serious life threatening illness really.
I want to know if we can touch on a little bit and we’ll go into a couple of other things that I want to touch on some of the other episodes and your book. I want to know have you ever worked with people who are recovering from physical conditions that as a result of brain or some other situation where they are not as able bodied as ever and how do you deal with those people differently? Then you’re technically able bodied person.
So I have I’ve worked with people who have had MS and some neurological conditions how I would approach approach that now, when I have worked with some of those people that was prior to my, I’d say recent in the last couple of years extensive knowledge of neurotransmitters and biochemistry at a deeper level and a hormonal level.
But what I do that a lot of people don’t know or understand till we like I show you I can’t really, I can tell you about it. But you’re, as I mentioned earlier, with physiology being a bunch of electrical and chemical transactions and exchanges that happen to the body as you think before you, you pick something up starts in your brain.
So well what people don’t do with exercise and it’s so simple and I’m trying to like brand it but I can’t, it really has to be in person, you have to do it with me or over Skype. I can’t really talk about it. It won’t be as effective but it’s all I have it on videos. You can contract your muscle with your brain. And I don’t work with anyone until you you because your beard muscle only contracts because your brain told it to and within Each muscle, there are many groups of muscle fibers that are connected to, let’s say, a receptor site that then get chemically induced by your nervous system that had to come from your impulse that happened at the brain.
And there’s lots of things that happen in between there. But when it comes to exercise, people don’t do the brain connection. They just tell you to do emotion. So you literally are thinking about something else or having a conversation and you’re moving your body around. And even with people who are like, just every bit everybody I worked with a brand new guy yesterday was a delight.
He was a delightful man, who every time who has hasn’t exercised in many, many, many, many, many, many years. And I and I went through took me an hour to teach him seven exercises because I thoroughly connected his brain to his muscles, and only had him move from that muscle was no more 100% control and neurological connection.
And he was like, I love this exercise. I love this. Exercise he because he felt his body in a way that he had in many, many years. But I do with everybody. And so what’s more, most important with anyone with a brain injury but everybody is to pause one more story. 70 year old client wanted to lose 50 pounds years ago, crooked, crooked, broken.
Oh my gosh, a limp. I took a look one look at her and I’m like, oh, gosh, okay, we can’t even address the weight loss until we like fix the table like you are a broken machine. We cannot make the machine work harder, it will keep breaking. We have to put you back together again. So I put her on the floor for the first two sessions and we did exercise on the floor.
Now mind you, I’m in an industry that and I don’t care about listening to those people because half of them are very educated anyway. But they would say to me, oh, that’s not functional training. Okay, first of all, the word function is if is getting something to work, it’s function. So to me, if it if it connects your brain to your body and turns a part of your body on that hasn’t worked in a long time that’s functional.
Okay, yes. You’re never going to lift your leg in the way that we do in the In life, that’s not the point. So I put this woman on the floor, we did all these exercises that you’d never do in life. And in two sessions, she was walking better. She wasn’t limping. And she walked in the door and I said, Lee, How you feeling? And she goes, I’m walking better. I said, I see that. She’s like, did I build muscle in two sessions? I said, No, we turned it on.
We use your brain to connect to the muscles around the areas that you had trauma that shut down to protect and to heal that never turned back on. Because they don’t let you turn them on with your brain. And we turn the back on. So now you have 20 or 30% more muscle that you’ve always had sitting there, but now it’s helping you walk. So for someone with brain, that’s the first place you have to go is to see how strong of a connection you can get from your brain to your muscle.
You don’t just do exercise, you don’t just move around. Because you’re already utilizing muscle fibers that are already well connected neurologically. The whole point of wanting to connect your body and strengthening that is to try to connect no muscle Try to move in a different way that your body isn’t used to, to a stimulate parts of your brain but then to activate and turn on new muscles that are sitting there doing nothing for you, because you can have we all have plenty of those. Yeah, beautiful work.
I love it. So for the people listening and watching or want to share what I did to recover, and it’s exactly what you said. So a lot of people who experience stroke will have left side or right side deficit and one of their hands may not move. So what I learned, which was not particularly useful for me was that there is an exercise where they therapists will get a mirror and I’ll get you to move the hand that works, but your brain in the mirror, because the mirror is opposite.
It sees the left hand moving, and it assumes that it’s made the left hand move. So the brain starts to do exactly what you said switch on those pathways or ignite those pathways. That told the muscle on the other side of the body of the arm that’s not working about, hey, we moved it already because I saw it. So if I saw it, it’s got to be real.
Which means now you need to kick in and get active and start doing stuff. So the challenge that I had was my left leg, I couldn’t use that. And we couldn’t get a mirror up to mimic that because it’s too big, etc. It’s too difficult. And before I actually had a month of rehabilitation, I had to wait two days to go from the hospital to the rehab hospital and to transition from surgery into a process that evaluated me to see what I was capable of doing with regards to walking etc.
So as a two day evaluation, I was born out of my brain stuck in my bed, and I couldn’t do any physical therapy and I remembered this exercise. So what I did is I imagined myself walking, I close my eyes, I meditated and I imagined myself Walking. And as I did that, I noticed that I was stepping a certain way my foot was landing a certain way I was getting certain feedback, all these things. And when it came time to walk, for people who are listening who have been through something or know somebody who’s been through something serious like this, what has happened at that time is certain neurons in the brain called mirror neurons pick that up and tell the rest of the body that this actually occurred, and therefore, you already have a reference point for it.
So you might as well just get up and do it yourself anyway. Now, it’s not 100% because you still have to strengthen the signal from the leg to the brain. But it is the beginning of that process. It’s what started off the healing and the communication. So I just love that you said what you said, because that’s exactly what I did.
And I didn’t know that you did that work and you didn’t know that that’s what I did. I love how aligned to be and I love how you’re taking your approach to healing to the floor and to To the brain and to the imagination and to a communication pathway rather than just get them on there and make them push and make them push.
Because if somebody got me to stand up, and I didn’t know that I would be shitting myself that I’m going to fall over, that I’m going to hurt myself that I won’t be able to do it. And I would put myself in a stressed out sympathetic state, and I would not want to go down that path I would be doing, you know, the freezing up of the locking up, and I wouldn’t want to comply, whereas this way, how gentle is it to put a lady on the ground, and to just get her to think about the things that she needs to think about so she can activate those muscles is the safest, most amazing thing you can’t get sued for that.
She was doing exercise and, you know, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve helped a lot of men with knee problems. And, and I’ve helped a lot of women actually, one of my coaching programs before I started doing Skype training. I mean I’ve helped fix some knees over the phone, and with my videos in terms of good form and have them go back and look at the exercises, but, but it’s all the same process, it’s all the same principle of that you we all have motor patterns that we practice all the time, we’ve established pathways that our brain goes through.
And when you get injured, those pathways shut down at those sites to protect so you can heal that tissue, but it won’t turn back on and then you compensate and create dysfunction. And and whether it be an injury or someone has pain, or we’re just we’re looking to build muscle I treat everybody the same way you need to connect with your body and know exactly, exactly. And your you need to be thinking in fact, if you really train well, it’s like meditation because you’re only thinking of the muscle that’s pulling in the direction you want it to pull and then moving the bones that are connected to that that’s it.
So if you’re really training well and you have your brain on, then it’s a Zen state of being because you are inside your body you are in the moment and you really there are not too many people that I trust to be having a full on conversation and really be in their bodies at the same time. I can do it but, you know, but really, because most people don’t visualize that strongly. Yeah, but I treat everybody the same.
Yeah. And they get distracted a little bit we’ll get distracted. Oh my god, the pain Oh my God, I’m gonna fall on my god, I can’t do it. They do all that type of stuff, right? So that’s right. I love that way. You said it’s like meditation focusing on that process on that skill. It’s like a meditation and so is it’s amazing. Your podcast is amazing. I’ve listed a couple of episodes and one of the other podcast episodes want to talk about is the biggest addiction we have.
No one wants to hear it. No one wants to hear it because they know they love the technology. Technology does amazing things and how could I be addicted to what I can do without it?
Atually, you know what, I have my new book here. Since I’ve since we did that podcast. Obviously, it’s, I’ve written a book and I have a whole bunch of different So, I will go over with you what the biggest addiction we have is, but I do want to refer to my new book because there’s also soft addictions and hard addictions. And that’s what people don’t understand is that they think that an addiction is just alcohol or drugs or food. And so people don’t take it seriously. And, and or they want to blame it on the on the substance.
Oh, it’s the substance. Oh, yeah. And then and then people want to congratulate everybody when they get off the substance. They’re like, Oh, you don’t? Oh, yeah, she’s not she’s an alcoholic. She’s recovered. She’s dry. And I’m like, so what’s she doing? Like? Did she heal that because here’s the thing. While there is a chemical component to hard addiction, it’s still the same alcoholic. Choosing to drink to, to suppress an emotion is no different than a person picking up a bag of chips, or a box of cookies, or a piece of chocolate.
And it’s no different than you on your phone all day long. Not connecting with yourself or anybody else because you’re too busy scouring the internet or Facebook To see what’s going on because you just want to be distracted the biggest diction we have is that we spend more time being distracted that we do being in our bodies and being in the moment we are constantly running away and filling our time busy Enos is a big addiction control is a huge are control issues of controlling things but and top in the biggest addiction at the top of the soft addictions would absolutely be technology.
Absolutely. devices, always having a device in your hand having your face down. Always trying to be connected when you’re really not connected, seeing what’s going on on Facebook or check on your Twitter or whatever. reading the news watching television numbing out. Because it’s it’s acceptable. All the soft addictions are seen as normal behavior. workaholism. That was yours, right? workaholism, and in, you know, food and control and business like people that are really busy. People think oh, you must be really successful.
No, that’s called I’m running from something, okay? If you don’t, you can’t sit with yourself long enough to feel what you’re feeling and allow life to just, you know, there’s a doing and a being and we’re human beings, not human doings. So that’s what ends up putting you in the ground faster or getting you into a place where you attract cancer or you’re so you’re so much toxic emotion inside of you that it turns into something physical as a disease in your body because you don’t ever release it or process it. You just hold it, and you’re running away from it, but you’re really not running away from it because it’s in you.
And then all of a sudden, it just manifests into something, you know, that’s gonna take you down. But yeah, so the biggest addiction we have on that podcast really is talking about technology. And, but since since that podcast, I would add a whole bunch of them and dizziness is one of them. And I’d want people to know that hard addictions, all addictions, all of them. Start with the impulse to stuff and to repress emotion. Doesn’t matter what it is. It all starts in the same way of I don’t want to feel blank.
Yeah, beautiful. Well said, I agree with you before we get on to your podcast because I want to talk about that why it was put together, etc. I want to ask you about one other episode which was Which Greek goddess, you, JJ?
You know, we did that show and and Helen sorted out, you know, there’s a quiz that she has and she went through all of them and and as she’s describing them going, Oh yeah, each one I’m like, Oh yeah, that’s and oh, yeah, I kind of did that too. And then we get to the next one I was like, how am I gonna? This is gonna sound funny, but I like think of all of them.
And she’s like, and she’s like, well, you might be and of course if I tested and I was like, whatever it is, like a little bit of all of them. That was me. I’m like, Yeah, okay, great. You know, I mean, I have I definitely have you know, as we evolved, we were talking about everything that’s happened to you. It’s happened for a reason and it’s about growing and as we age and, and and it’s really about the width. If you take the cues and you learn your lesson. Some people live 99 years some people have one year 99 times.
If you’re taking the cue and you’re expanding, you’re growing and you’re learning and you’re taking life and you really like riding that wave in an exciting way, and not just repeating patterns and patterns, and numbing to avoid thinking or feeling about anything new or different, then then this stuff, just sort of, you know, you you put on personalities, based on what stage of life you’re in and where you are. I mean, I’ve had the addiction of business, because that’s what I looked around and entrepreneurs and thought, that’s what I was supposed to do. I’m supposed to be busy, it means I’m successful. If I’m not busy, I’m doing something wrong.
And then I realized that that was not law of attraction. And I was not leveraging the universe and the energy that I have available access to to actually create really amazing wonderful things that have a life of their own. So once I started to really get honest about that, even though I believe this one thing, I wasn’t really practicing it, then I could sit back and go Okay, so So now I’m a little bit of all of them. But before I was Athena, and before that I, you know, I was all different ones, because of where I was in my stage of growth and learning.
Yeah, that’s really important for people to know is that they can grow, they can adapt, they can change, they can let go of old behaviors, they don’t have to stick to them for the rest of their lives. And they can also say, you know what, that way that I was being or doing that was not for me. Now, in this version of my life and who I become, I can let that go. So big deal I don’t want to be that person anymore. It doesn’t change who I am deep down in my heart.
It just changes the way I act and the feedback that I get because of that so that’s all good. Your podcast though, is called fit to love. So we’ve spoken about a lot of things but now we’re talking about fit to love and love comes up in a couple of different things that you have done in the past including your your book, so what spirit to love about because what do you mean pizza love, like what is that?
So back when I hired it manager that was like you need to I’d had back absolute abs. So that book is a book that it’s right here. It’s a brand. It’s like the dummies and idiot series, right? And so knack was not my brand, I was hired to write this book. I didn’t want to write this book. Actually, I actually was trying to get them to do something different. So this is it’s a really beautiful picture book. That was a pain in the butt to write I hated writing it but it’s a beautiful thing. And I do love it but it’s not a book you read. It’s a book you kind of like utilize as a tool.
And, but it represents the fitness industry. For me it represents that I care what your abs look like, I don’t care what your abs look like, I don’t care what my abs look like sometimes, right? It’s Are you like, that’s not the point. I’m not that person who’s gonna say you’re you have a good body, therefore your life works and you’re happy. Half the time if the more perfect you think you seem to put on in the world. I’m going to say oh, what are you hiding? That’s what happens to me now.
So fits a love was the first version and then The updated version is about the relationship you have with, with this self care industry. That it’s really there are two, there’s two. I don’t wanna say paths. And I’m not gonna say emotion. But I’m gonna say there’s two impulses that we act on fear and love.
Were either heading in the direction of fear or we’re heading in the direction of love with everything, right? So part of that addiction conversation can be, you’re coming from a fear place when you’re having fear, you do the addiction because if you were in a place of love, you wouldn’t need to suppress that. So when it comes to exercise, what I bring that’s different is I still want you to exercise I still want you to be healthy and strong if you want to be healthy and strong.
But I want you to come from a place because you love yourself, because that’s how you attract other good things as well as results and keeping it sustainable. How many times can you walk into a gym and you feel the insecurity you feel people who hate being there? They’re only there because they they think they need to look better or else no one will love them.
Or they’re abusing and punishing themselves for something they think they did or eight wrong. That’s it, that energy in the fitness industry is what I repel, like a rebel and I repel, right? I don’t like it and I wanted to start changing it and, and at the time, the manager said, Well, can you write something about fitness and love? And I was thought to myself, well, that’s kind of my story. I mean, I met my husband.
I mean, I met him and then it like when he came back in and like, we were like, Oh, I’m gonna marry you. Wow. Like on our second date that I’ll happen when I I couldn’t I literally, I didn’t need him. And I really was probably the place where I couldn’t have been happier. I mean, I could have taken a little bit more money at the time and been like, that’s nice. But I was getting all my needs met. I was having a great time I was fulfilled, I was full. I was happy. I was peaceful.
I was authentically doing and just being I wasn’t needing and I wasn’t. And I wasn’t hating myself and I wasn’t you know, so. So when it came to like singles and relationships and how your self care plays into that, that’s how fifth love was born. It was you can utilize your self care to love yourself. And you can get to the place where you will attract more when you don’t need it. You’re just wanting that person to make you feel love, but you can make yourself feel love right now.
And in fact, you’re all attract that person a lot faster if you versus if you need something. So that’s really how Philip was born, was a manager asked me about it, but then I realized that was my story, because I had been looking for to write that next book. Like, what’s my story? Because some people, you know, like, I had never lost 100 pounds. I didn’t have some disease that I came back from, you know, I’m like, I’ve kind of been like, what’s my story? Yeah. And when he said that, I was like, Oh, my story was, I was happy. And I was giving it all to myself. And because of that, I attracted the perfect partner for me, but it was because I was taking care of myself in a way that came from Love. So that’s how fit to love was born.
Yeah, that’s nice and at the website fittolove.tv you’ve renamed the days of the week.
Okay, so the book, so the book came first, and then the podcast came. Okay, the podcast. Sorry, this is the updated version podcast came after that. And, and because I’d already opened up, you know, I now went, I took like fitness out of the fitness category, and I’ve now stuck it in relationships. Alright, so now that I’ve sort of made this leap, and I’m taking people with me, the next question is, well, what else is included in that?
And now I’ve just opened up this umbrella of things I can talk about that I think are important for holistic health, living and healing. And so the show isn’t about being single and dating, although sexy Saturday’s is about that. But now and because I can’t fit it all in one thing. It’s not just exercise. It’s the whole package. It’s the exercise. It’s the diet and the eating. It’s the medicine, alternative medicine. It’s the psychology piece.
It’s the spirituality It’s the relationship piece. So I was driving after I thought I ought to do the podcast and I got an I thought I’m going to do six days a week, because I knew the different days and what they needed to be. And then I like got inspired. And I pulled over and I wrote movement Monday, Tasty Tuesday, wellness, Wednesday, thoughtful Thursday, freedom Friday, sexy Saturday, and boom, there it was.
And so now I have an outlet that you get to choose if what you like and don’t like, if you don’t, if you just want to do one of them, you just listen to one day or watch one. So I got video and audio. It’s a six day week show. And it was my way of putting out all the information under one umbrella that I think are necessary for true holistic results with your body as well as happiness, peace and relationships in your life.
I think that the way that you’ve renamed that the days of the week are amazing because that takes away that Monday being the worst day of the week. It takes away Wednesday being hump day, the day that we just want to get to so that we can get to the weekend. And it renames them, it gives them more value than just a day we have to get to to get beyond that so that we can get to the weekend. And the fact that Saturdays can be sexy.
Well, that’s just brilliant. Because we got to the end of the week, we did all the things that we had to do for everybody. So now we can do something for us and make us feel great about ourselves and make us feel great about you know, going out and connecting with other people and doing whatever you want to do. To feel sexy about it doesn’t mean you have to dress in a certain way but you just have to feel on the inside. It’s about how you feel internally.
And movement. Monday’s is such a beautiful way to get to beyond the weekend and continue moving. So thanks, you know well done for doing that. I just love it because so many people have associated so many terrible things to Monday, so many terrible things to Wednesday, and I really look forward to To Friday and Fridays, the only day of the week that we should be alive and awake for because it’s the end of the week. Yeah.
And I can see that every day, you know, when I go into offices and talk to people like, how’s your day? So Ah, that is great. It’s Friday. Oh my god. Come on, guys. So there’s another six days of the week that can be great if you so choose to think to have the mindset that you can make them great and be great. And have a great experience rather than just the day of the week.
We want to get towards you know, so well done for doing that. I think it’s a very beautiful, creative way to change what people think So guys, if you’ve had if you’ve enjoyed this episode of the podcast if you’ve enjoyed JJ energy and her amazing words of wisdom, do us a favor, go along and give this particular episode of the podcast a five star review. If you have seen it on YouTube, hit the like button. And JJ if people want to connect with you or find out more about you, where do they go?
Well, I think the best place to go right now. would be to JJ flow Zane calm and the reason is because I have taken this six day week podcast and now given each day of the week its own show. So movement Mondays is now smart exercise. Tasty Tuesdays is now easy paleo gluten and dairy free cooking wellness Wednesdays so they also exist. But this way people can really pick and choose which subject matter they like the best if you want the whole kit and caboodle come over to fit to love. If you only want cooking and learn how to make paleo gluten dairy free meals that are easy and delicious. And you want to watch videos then you go to that show.
So that this way you get to pick whichever calls to you the most. It’s hilarious to me which show is doing the best on now that I’ve divided them into their own single shows. It’s not something I never would have guessed that is doing the best I would have assumed this day of the week in this day that week would have been the most popular and I’m totally wrong. So I’m really happy I’m doing this experiment to see in real numbers by divided them into their own own channels which one is the most popular so far? Can you share?
Yes, it’s freedom Fridays, which is now spirit, purpose and energy. My spirit purpose and energy show is by far kicking butt number wise on all the rest of the shows. Now, granted, the good at the smart exercise podcast is not up yet. And then my thoughtful Thursday show is becoming the emotional side of wellness. That is not upbeat either. But the other four days of the week are up as their own show. And in spirit, purpose and energy went up first. So I granted that it’s got a head start, but it is by far the most popular show but of the new new branded shows.
I think you’re doing great work. If you can inspire somebody spiritually to shift and change their spirit. I think then it’s one of the key components to changing the rest of their well being their brain, their heart, their got their body, their joints, their eyes, everything about it. So that’s why I think they’re people are attracted to what they’re going to get the most leverage from you The shortest amount of time they just don’t know it.
That’s good. I didn’t think about that. It’s really the spirit part is your is the electricity of your body. It’s that it’s that impulse. It’s that cheat in Chinese medicine. It’s the energy. It’s the unmeasurable unseeable, you know, stuff that that makes the difference between a body that’s breathing in a body. That’s not if anyone’s ever watched anyone pass, you see that?
You know, it’s still a body, but you can tell, but there’s no spirit in there. And that spirit, which we can’t measure, I mean, we can but nobody really puts it in a bottle and says here, here’s some spirit, right? But it’s like that breath of life really is if you’re not, if you don’t know what you believe. And you don’t ever question that.
I mean, you have blood, we all have beliefs. But when you start to really understand what your beliefs are, it gives you so much information about how you act in the world and what you attract and how you experience yourself and your feelings. So it’s a good point that that probably is the biggest bang for your buck in terms of changing someone’s life.
Yeah, I know that when I changed my view on the woowoo stuff, and it’s not that I changed my view, it’s I allowed my true view to be expressed because I suppressed it. Because if I told my mates about, you know, how I meditate and other kinds of what, what’s wrong with you, you know, so I was afraid to do that. Because blokes men in Australia, we’re not supposed to do that. They’re probably not supposed to do that on any part of the planet.
But, you know, when I started doing that, what I started noticing is that those people didn’t actually become distant, actually became closer, they actually I was able to have more meaningful connections and communications with them and that was able to enliven my insides, you know, that spirit part of me and it was able for me to express myself in a different way and cry, and be afraid and be vulnerable and you know, apologize.
So, I love it. I love it. We could talk for But I could actually have you on here for next five hours because I just love everything that you say and do and the way that you go about things. I’m sure by the time we get through the five hours, there’ll be stuff I didn’t like, but I’d rather not find out. Just thank you for making yourself available. I really appreciate it. And I wish you all the success and I’m just going to continue to follow your work. And I’ll encourage people who I think are going to be attracted to the way that you go about things to check it out as well.
Bill, thank you and obviously thank you for the work that you’re doing and the journey that you share with others because you had to hit against the wall in order to get you know, but that’s where we all are. We all have it in different ways. And so thank you for your courage to speak out about that because as especially as a male and like I said an Australian male, that’s, that can be scary. And so congratulations and keep being a light bear because the more that you open up and share with others, the more you give them permission to do the same. So without you other people would never take that Next step. So thank you for the work you’re doing.
My pleasure. Thanks. Well, once again, thanks for listening, everybody. I really do appreciate it. This episode of the transatlantic podcast was brought to you by the website, billgasiamis.com. It’s where you can find out more about my recovery from three brain hemorrhages and brain surgery, where you can make a booking for a Skype coaching session, use the using the online calendar.
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